Englander vs. Southerland
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Englander
Englander is a mattress brand founded in New York City in 1894. As part of the Southerland mattress family, their mattresses are made in the US and feature foam, latex, and pocket coils. Englander is committed to lowering their carbon-footprint through use of natural latex and recycled steel in some of their mattresses. These mattresses are predominantly found in Southern and Midwest US mattress retail stores. What sets Englander apart is their selection of cooling foams and eco-friendly latex.
Southerland
Southerland has been in business since 1893, founded originally in Nashville, Tennessee where they still manufacture mattresses. They are most well known in mattress stores across the south and mid-west as a price-competitive option against many of the main brands. They offer a variety of mattresses under different brand names like Southerland, Englander and American Sleep. With both memory foam and pocketed coil options, most customers like their mattresses at first, but some customers experienced issues with durability.
Based on our aggregated reviews and our scoring method, we recommend Southerland in this match up!
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Mattress Score
Overall Score:
Englander: 7.1/10
Southerland: 7.2/10
Customer Satisfaction:
Englander: 7/10
Southerland: 7.3/10
Price Value:
Englander: 7.1/10
Southerland: 8.3/10
No Back Pain:
Englander: 7.1/10
Southerland: 8.1/10
Price:
Englander: $857-$3499
Southerland: $399-2399
Englander:
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Englander's Owner Satisfaction
Customer reviews are sometimes hard to make sense of -- especially with brands trying at all costs to protect their reputation. Customers, unfortunately, don't always feel great about these mattresses. There are still customers that really appreciate these beds, but many others that don't. Read on below to get the details on the specifics.
Englander's Supportiveness
Some customers describe feeling good support in these mattresses, but others have been disappointed with the quality. For those that have back pain already, make sure to read the reviews to make sure the mattress works for you.
Edge Support
There are mixed feelings about edge support for these mattresses. Some folks have reported good amounts of comfort throughout the mattress, but others had issues with sagginess towards the sides.
Englander's Durability
In addition to having good support, having a mattress that really lasts is key for shoppers. We all are hopeful our mattress will last a decade or more and stay just as cozy as day one. However, sadly these mattresses are not rated very well by sleepers on longevity and some have experienced issues after only a short time. If you are thinking about using this mattress nightly, make sure to review the specs against your body type to make sure it will work for you.
Southerland's Owner Satisfaction
If you are thinking of buying, read on below for more information from customers. Unfortunately, not all customers give them good ratings. Some were extremely happy with their purchase, but many others were not as excited.
Southerland's Supportiveness
Overall, these mattresses may leave something to be desired in terms of lasting support. Though some sleepers find these mattresses to be comfortable, others have found these mattresses not to be comfortable. If this brand is on your short list, make sure to read more about it before purchasing.
Edge Support
Edge support is definitely an important indicator to those with mobility concerns. Other customers don't find it to be a major sticking point for them. These mattresses are not as supportive overall, so if edge support is very important to you make sure to do some additional research.
Southerland's Durability
Unfortunately, customers don't always love the durability of these mattresses. While some customers felt comfortable with their mattress, others found that quicker break down than others. Make sure to do some extra research on the reviews and specifications before buying.
Browse Englander Customer Reviews
Few months in, started sagging
I bought a latex Englander pillow top bed about 6 years ago, in the store it was super comfortable but after I got it (Queen size) and had it for a few months it started sagging. I only weigh 143 and it shouldn't do that. Within a few years it was awful. When it became horrible, I called them and spoke with the customer service team, I sent pictures and documented how bad it was. The bed I had was discontinued, and they actually replaced it with a top of the line pillow top mattress--it was their best model, and probably about an $1800 mattress. I was thrilled, now 6 months into it--I have to turn the thing constantly to avoid the sagging. It is almost as bad as the other one and I completely hate it. I bought a new bed this week. I really wanted it to work out but these are just not great. I can say their customer service was excellent, but I would never recommend these. They aren't cheap and they are so uncomfortable--I can't imagine 2 people on one that weigh more than me.
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Started sagging in eight months
We spent $1150+ on an E-gel, cool gel technology Queen, and after about 8 months it started to sag. Englander sent someone over to check the bed and we were told it was 'expected' wear and tear - I'm furious - less than 2 years old - absolutely awful and I am doing everything in my power to spread the word everywhere on the net about this company and their expensive, sagging mattress. :( My $400 mattress was more comfortable after 6 years than this one. I feel bitter about the amount of money and lack of accountability for poor quality, poor durability and crap customer service. Anyone know how to launch a class-action law suit against these clowns?
Bought in the 90s -- still good!
I bought an Englander mattress in December 1996. It was a double-pillow top queen sized mattress with the matching box spring. It is only now that I am thinking of replacing it with a new mattress. I am thinking about a memory foam mattress. This model was the best one that the store carried. For the entire time that I have had the mattress, it was wonderful and very comfortable. The only reason that I am want to replace it, it because of its age. It always had a protective cover on it.
Cheap and good
Just bought a englander capri. Queen size for $396 after tax. So far so good
Best mattress I ever owned
Had a Queen pillowtop for a month now. Absolutely the best Mattress I've ever owned. I saved hundreds of dollars and would recommend The Mattress Outlet and Englander Mattress to anyone that wants a great night's sleep. You do not need to spend thousands to be comfortable. I am completely satisfied with the product.
Love it
We bought a englander back in 05 and have been happy every night since. I feel like I am sleeping on a cloud. Not sure the model but it was about $1200
Worst ever
I bought an Englander Ultimate Visco Pillowtop, expensive, the store went out of business and I am stuck with the worst mattress in the world, it is only two and a half years old and has two holes one on each side and a hump in the middle, pleople learn from my mistake do not buy this mattress.
Biggest ripoff of my life
Do not buy an Englander mattress. The biggest ripoff in my life of 56 years is the Englander mattress. Only 6 months ago we bought one for over $800.00. I have been sleeping in a hole for 3 months now. Tomorrow i will cut it in half and transport the halves to the wholesaler where I will glue them to the sidewalk in front of the store.
Durability -- NONE
Bought this mattress three months ago and it has a giant hole directly in the middle of the mattress. I am not a big person and can't understand how normal sleep would ever cause something like this to happen. I am so disappointed and all I want is a new mattress, but the store said that the sale was final. I was jipped out of hundreds of dollars.
My back aches and the mattress is falling apart
Six months in and I can't even sleep in this bed because the bedding itself has entirely degraded. I am not a sensitive sleeper and would gladly sleep on a couch any day, but this bed has turned into a painful metal mess. I can't do this to myself.
Constant pain and sagging
Bought this bad a year ago and have been in constant pain since 2 weeks in. The shoddy crafstmanship is unbelievable. Buyer beware!!!
Everyone loves it
I purchased my mattress by chance from an store that was going out of business in 2007. To this day everyone that comes to visit brags about the restful night they get. Nothing but snores from the guest bedroom. I brought my second one, replacing my mattress with an Englander, now I have two. I hope my second one last as long as my first one.
I purchased a king sized mattress
I purchased a king sized mattress and box spring January 2014 - from Beds Beds Beds in Crestwood, The mattress is an Englander Mattress OAKVILLE FM is what is on the tag. I emailed Englander Bedding twice and got no answer - I will try calling the company directly later today. The mattress is lumpy my spouse and I weight about 137-150 each so there is no valid reason why the mattress should be lumpy. I don't know if this complaint will do anything but I quite unhappy with the mattress (the box spring appears ok). I keep hearing Englander mattress stands by their product and so far no response. The mattress before we see that it is lumpy in 3 spots is a firm mattress and we both got a good nights sleep.
Englander Geneseo
Mattress has been sagging for 3-4 years now, and it is only 6 years old! I only weigh 135 pounds! Wake up stiff and sore. Just bought a big name competitor's mattress/box springs and guess what -- all my aches and stiffness went away.
Sags in the middle after 4 months
Bought Englander (hampstead model) mattress. I am a smaller than average person and it started sagging in the middle. Every night I end up rolling into the center. Back and hips sore. Contacted customer service twice several months ago and no one ever responded. Will never buy this brand again. I will check the listings from Consumer Reports before I buy another mattress. Thought this would be better because it was a made in USA company.
Horrible Mattress!!
We purchased this mattress after being told this is a "commercial hotel" brand. We knew w/in the 1st week it was not for us. Very hard, most uncomfortable mattress we have ever owned, began to sag after "one" month. I went to the store we purchased from 3 times, I was told by everyone I spoke to "sorry we can't do anything about it" or "you have to call the manufacturer" or "just lay on it more" . The manufacturer sent a bunch of forms to complete but if it did not sag to their "inch" requirement it did not qualify to return. Any sagging that soon is not good, still uncomfortable, we have regretted this purchase of the ENGLANDER mattress & would not suggest you purchase one at all!!
Sagging less than a year!
After only a few months my full size bed began sagging in the middle. It's the Englander Hampstead model. I'm 140lbs, athletic. Now I wake with back & hip pain (combo sleeper- I change positions through the night). Contacted the manufacturer twice with zero response. The box spring is very cheaply made. Horrible waste of money. Now checking reviews before I buy another bed. Will not purchase this brand again. Never had a bed fail in such a short period of time.
Sagging at 5 months. NOT Good
After 5 months from purchase my mattress started getting a depression in the middle of the mattress, AND a big depression on the side of the bed. And which started causing me back issues due to sleeping a bed with defective support.
check your frame
I purchased my first Englander Pillowtop Mattress in 2008. The one I bought, just like many others on this list of reviews was horrible. within the first couple to three months it Started sagging in the middle. I contacted the retailor I purchased it from and they sent out a tech for measurements (a string with 2 weights-one on each end hang over both sides of bed and check depth in middle) and agreed to replace mattress with a new one. Then about two to three months later the same thing with the new mattress-again replaced. When replacing the second mattress, I looked under the box spring to notice that the boards under the box spring were different than customary ones. At this point, I bought a nine leg bed frame instead of the four leg model and the bed has not had this problem again. Check your box spring and maybe consider changing your frame or possible run boards across it for additional support. Hopefully this help some of you..
Englander Brighton Mattress
We bought an Englander Brighton about 18 months ago. It started sagging so we turned it around. Still sagged. Contacted Englander who referred us to the local dealer. Took them pictures and they were great about replacing it with a new one. We have had this one only 3 months and it is sagging as much as the first one. We weigh 150 lbs and 120 lbs. (Not heavy people.) Totally disappointed with the product. Not sure what well do next. Sure won't buy another Englander. The company may be great, but this mattress is terrible.
Lie about warranty
I reached out a week ago for them because I was looking for the warranty for the beat for the mattress I bought nobody reached out sent me an email nothing just completely ignored me until I think that's some professional and I will never buy another one of these again and my bed I got in 2017 so I know there's a 10-year
Worse mattress I have ever bought
after 1 night these mattresses(2 twin xl). the sagging of the mattresses under where we sleep was unbelievable and continues to get worse,. When elevating the head and feet to sit for reading or watching TV the sitting is like sitting on hard board with no cushion. My bones hurt! I called salesman and they sent out their inspection team and they are going to replace. I’m so concerned about this product and will I get the same outcome? Reading some reviews i see.sagging is a problem. I wish I had my old 25 year old-king Serta back. My husband and I are now having problems with aches and back pain. Wise purchase we ever made.
After 35 years, time to replace
We bought our Lady Englander mattress 35 years ago when we were married and never thought about replacing it. When we climb in we always talk about how comfortable it is. However, after 35 years it is definitely starting to sag a bit. But we have certainly gotten our money's worth. Looking to replace with something very similar.
Browse Southerland Customer Reviews
Horrible
Never had back issues till sleeping or rather trying to sleep on this mattress. Started sagging immediately. I am a small person. Should not be this uncomfortable. Broke down on edges immediately. Turned it ,tried everything. Do not buy this mattress. You will regret it.
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Worst mattress ever
This mattress started sagging only two weeks after purchase, both sides of the bed had deep indents in it causing both my husband and I back pain. I took it back to the furniture store where I purchased it from after 2 months, to be treated with the worst customer service ever. They inspected the mattress without taking off the plastic I wrapped in, stating they found nothing wrong with it. Poor quality, horrible comfort, and warranty. Save your money and keep looking.
Uncomfortable
I bought this bed only a couple of months ago and at first, it was a dream, but now it has a lot of sagging in the middle of it. If I only saw this review site before I bought. :(
Okay Mattress
Bought a couple of days ago. So far, pretty satisfied. Is it the best mattress? No. But, it's pretty decent. A little worried about the durability from these reivews.
Bought it, and then returned it
Luckily was able to return this. I was really dissappointed with the material. From the get go, there was one area that poked into my back. It was a little strange and I thought that it may have been a defective product. But, after risking once, I won't be risking again.
That's why they call it a cheap mattress
I thought that I was going to be getting a real value out of this mattress, but uncfortunately, this is exactly what you would expect out of a cheap mattress. Something that leaves me in pain in the morning is exactly the opposite of what I wanted to purchase. I wish I could give 0 stars.
Sleeping like the dead
I got this bed in 2001 and am still happy with it. Every night I sleeping soundly and without any problems. I wish they made more exactly like this one!!
Great mattress...
Great mattress, I bought one for my mom and she loves it.
The worst...
The worst mattress I have ever slept on in my life. Within one month of sleeping on mattress, it's like laying in a fox hole. I regret not complaining immediately. I would give zero stars if I could.
Over 2 inches...
Over 2 inches the mattress has sunk in less than 6 months. I am not a large person...rotated etc. Regret not taking it back within 120 days. Now..we are stuck. Jumped thru hoops for warranty...so we can get ANOTHER poor quality mattress.
Worst mattress...
Worst mattress I have ever owed! $1200 mistake
Terrible quality...
Terrible quality for the money. In less than one year we have craters where we lay and have done all the recommended turning of the mattress etc.
This is a wonderful company...
This is a wonderful company. They treat people very well with much respect. Would advise anyone to do business with them. They are honest and good-hard working people, who always keep the customer in mind.
Awful
The bed was bad after 18 months and back issues ensued at 36 months! Tried to get the warranty to cover the bed but they wanted me to pay $250 for them to complete the warranty.
Cheap and lying information when buying this mattress set.
We bought two sets of these, what looked like Big Lots mattresses. We were told they would be the same. When delivered they were two different types of mattresses. One was very cheap and after 3 nights it began to sink down a little. The next night it was worse. I have awaken with back problems each morning and in the middle of the night. Worse. CHEAP, set of what we told , was a wonderful set. $250 for warranty. Dear Lord, had we known. This true, negative comment will be shared all over the internet. LEAVE THESE CROOKS and their mattresses alone.
6 Years later, desperately needing new mattress
We purchased this mattress almost exactly 6 years ago from Nebraska Furniture Mart's mattress selection (in Kansas City 2012). The Southerland was presented to us as a Simmons equal, made by a proud USA company, and sold for less of a cost of most mattresses ($659.00). I've had a few years of restless sleep and segments of back pain, but I've been making other excuses for the problems (maybe gaining a few extra pounds, maybe stress, maybe needing to get some more exercise)...until now. I have had severe back pain while sleeping to the point it is constantly waking me up during the night and spasms upon waking. It's been months now and I finally gave in and have tried sleeping on my sofa and my child's twin mattress. Both have been better periods of sleep than in my own bed. The store I purchased the mattress told me today that in order for the company to uphold the warranty, and potentially replace the mattress, they would need to prove there is a 1.5" permanent depression in the mattress. In my case, the mattress has no depression when not laying/sitting on it. In my case, my mattress just doesn't seem to have the same strength of resistance to my weight when laying on it. I have a "Firm" mattress but when laying on the mattress I feel like I am in a long curved shape, putting a strain on my lumbar back curving the wrong way.
Don't buy it!
Started off great, by the end of the first year my husband was sleeping upstairs in the guest room. After the second year, I was sleeping in a hole. In order for them to even consider doing anything you have to jump through hoops and it doesn't show when it is just sitting on the floor. When you lay on it just hope you can manage to turn over or even get out of the bed. We have packed folded towels underneath trying to get some support but even that is breaking down. Haven't had a good nights sleep in a very long time. Any mattress you cannot turn will end up with a sunken place in it.
I bought an Englander Egel...
I bought an Englander Egel mattress that Southerland owns or makes. I've gotten such a run around from these all these people I don't know who is responsible. The mattress started falling apart after two years. I'm still trying to get warranty service for it put they keep handing me of to one person that handles the all the southeast US and he doesn't return phone calls or Emails. Do not buy from these people. If you have a problem they just keep passing you around hoping you give up! I'M NOT GIVING UP!
Mattress springs were poking through...
Mattress springs were poking through the padding within 2 years of purchase. The mattress failed and has a huge "nest" area that sinks about 4-6 inches deep and is about 12-18 inches across. I will never buy another southerland mattress. I bought this one to support a local company. NEVER AGAIN. The store I bought it from will not honor the warranty and say they no longer carry Southerland due to similar problems. I called and left numerous messages with Southerland's customer service - no one returns phone calls. I finally reached someone but when I sent the paperwork off to replace the mattress - NOTHING.
All I know...
All I know is that ever since I bought my Southerland mattress at Bedzzz Express, I now know what it means to get a good nights sleep!
I purchased a mattress from a local store...
I purchased a mattress from a local store in 2014 that was a Southerland product. The mattress was great at first but became harder and stiffer after 2 years. The foam actually became less flexible. There is nothing in the warranty that covers this type of ware. Amerigel Discovery Gel - By Southerland Bedding, Queen, Medium Firm.
I purchased an Englander Egel...
I purchased an Englander Egel mattress Dec 2012 and we loved it till it failed in Jan 2017 (less than 5 years). I filed a warranty claim and was sent another mattress by Southerland BUT it was a completely DIFFERENT mattress. Southerland has made no effort to resolve this issue. We are stuck with a HORRIBLE mattress that we will have to replace. I do not recommend this company.
Warranty Claim when Weekend Only no longer sales their product.
After initial purchase 6 years ago the mattress was defective. For whatever reason Weekend only quit carrying their product. For a claim they quoted their fine print and could care less. The warranty price was like buying a whole new mattress. I would never waste my time or money with this group again.
So comfortable for about a year. Then sagged really bad.
It's a foam pillow top with springs underneath. For about one year, it was so comfortable. Then it sagged so bad, we got egg shaped pockets to sag into. I only weigh 110 lbs.
Horrible worse mattress ever
I bought this mattress from an auburn mattress dealer. It was a second one purchased. I felt like I got screwed all the way around. My back continually hurts and I have a mattress pad. I spent 3700 and hopefully I will buy another one from a more reputable dealer. The company should reimburse the customer and take the mattress back. Do not buy this mattress. Southerland was conveyed to be a great company and it’s not.
Sagging already?
I thought I was crazy at first because the mattress is about a year old. How could it sag so soon? I am a small/skinny person and have an indent on the side of the bed I sleep in, I am trying to rotate it to have a fresh side. The problem is you can't sell a mattress to anyone else. I guess I'm stuck with it : (
Badly made
bought Southerland Carly Plush mattress 6/19 it's not been a year and the mattress has a sag in the middle of it, and it's still not comfortable for me, unfortunately they are letting me replace it with the same brand name which I would have rather get a different Brand name like Serta or Sealy.. but $499.00 mattress is this what u get then I will have to go up in price for a better night sleep. I would not recommend buying this brand..
Because your money and body deserves better
This bed is HORRIBLE. I purchased this bed for my then 6 year old daughter who weighed around 45 pounds. This bed lasted less than a year. It felt as if there was a hole in the middle of the mattress. I would have opted to return this mattress or voice my complaint, but the furniture store that I purchased it from had gone out of business. This bed reminds me of a taco. When you lay on the bed, it seems as though you are being folded. PLEASE DON'T PURCHASE, READ THE REVIEWS, MONEY IS TOO HARD TO COME BY! My daughter will opt to sleep on a pallet with blankets and covers on the floor or in the bed with me that sleep on her bed! This will be a POOR investment!
Oh My Aching Back and Hips and Butt!
My 2020 Fairweather Mattress and Boxspring were delivered 9 days ago. I noticed the center of the mattress started sagging after 3 times trying to sleep on it. I went to Kings Furniture in Dayton, Oh on day 8 (yesterday), to complain, and inquire about an upgrade. I was told someone would call me today, and that I should've returned it within 2 days of purchase. I am financing this matters set for almost $900.00, and have spent half of my first week with it, sleeping on my sagging sofa. I'm super pissed, and I want out of this deal!
Ultimate Line of "La Garbage"
Lived in Nashville and figured I'd buy a local brand, big mistake. Spent the extra money on the "Ultimate Serene" Line . The only thing this "Ultimate" piece of junk has me saying is "Serenity Now". 3 years later I'm leaving the house to go sink another $5G on a new bed set up.
Outstanding mattress!
I've never owned a "Southerland Mattress" before, and this is the first time I have taken time to write a review. I purchased the mattress for my guest room, so that my elderly mother can sleep over when it's late. Since she initially didn't spend the night, I spent an evening "trying it out" to make sure it would be comfortable for her. I was very impressed with the gentle support, and comfort of the mattress (I fell asleep on it) After she tried it and commented "how well she slept" I decided to take some time to write a review! Thank you Southerland, for manufacturing such an awesome mattress!!
Should have been a recall!
Do not buy a Sutherland mattress, it should have been recalled for faulty craftmenship! Don't buy from Johnson's Furniture in Newberg, they're crooks!
Floor model was more comfortable than the mattress we received.
My wife and I slept on our new mattress 1 night and we both could not get comfortable, We both had sore backs in the morning and we immediately the next morning went back to the place of purchase to verify the the floor model was more comfortable and it was. A sales person from Brawley furniture in Mooresville, NC asked if they could help but was not helpful at all and i was asked to leave the store.
Mattress not the right size
I got a queen sized mattress but the mattress is 2 inches less in width than the 60 inches. My queen sized sheets are too big for the mattress and am also starting to sag on the sides that my husband and I sleep on.
Mattress met all warranty return requirements except...
Mattress met all warranty requirements except... stain on mattress. mattress sagged more than the 2" requirement for warranty but because we spilled a soft drink on it when we were washing the the mattress cover they voided the warranty. What does a stain have to do with the quality of the mattress. Read the FINE print before purchasing.
SAGGING more then 2 inches on the king mattress in 2 spots where me and the wife sleep.
It's 3 yrs old and started sagging within the first 2 years. Now my wife wakes up in the morning with back aches. SAGGING more then 2 inches on the king mattress in 2 spots where me and the wife sleep.
Worst Bed & Company EVER
My boyfriend and I have now gone through FIVE Southerland brand beds in a one year span. Durability? What's that? The local mattress store kept returning the faulty mattresses because after 1-2 months of 2 normal weight sleepers, significant sagging occurred in different places with each mattress. After giving far more than a fair chance, we are finally getting a full refund from Southerland. Southerland reps also instructed the local owners to not let us have the contact # for customer service, in attempts to stick us with yet another Southerland mattress. NOT WORTH ANYTHING! Read the reviews! Terrible quality, no durability, great only for a few weeks.
Great Mattress
I purchased one of these mattress's 5 years ago and love it, so I purchased one for the spare room and guest love it! Highly recommend it, great price also.
What a high-priced POS
Made in late 2020, this piece of junk turned into a camel's back in no time. Two people sized valleys on either side with a hump in the middle. 2.5 years and it's off to the landfill today.
Awful
I’ve had this mattress for a few years, and it is the worst mattress I have ever slept on! I now have so much back trouble- my mom both the same mattress in a full size, that I bought in a king. Her mattress is very comfortable, but the workmanship of the king size is horrendous! I would never recommend a Southerland mattress!